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	<title>Comments on: Google is not fair (and is not meant to be)</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say google is incredibly unfair....without a substantial investment no small business has a chance of generating leads....that is unfair!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say google is incredibly unfair&#8230;.without a substantial investment no small business has a chance of generating leads&#8230;.that is unfair!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-writer.com/blog/2012/10/09/google-is-not-fair-and-is-not-meant-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-586617</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say that Google is unfair. It might seem like they are discriminating against some website owners by penalizing them but not others with similar link profiles, but there will be other factors at play that get taken into account (on-site, user metrics, social signals, etc.). Most people complaining about &#039;unfairness&#039; would have playing the algorithm in one way or another. If you do that and get the temporary advantage then you can&#039;t later say that it&#039;s unfair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that Google is unfair. It might seem like they are discriminating against some website owners by penalizing them but not others with similar link profiles, but there will be other factors at play that get taken into account (on-site, user metrics, social signals, etc.). Most people complaining about &#8216;unfairness&#8217; would have playing the algorithm in one way or another. If you do that and get the temporary advantage then you can&#8217;t later say that it&#8217;s unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimi Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimi Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello David, i used to think, why are some sites Page Ranking high when there isn&#039;t even any content on them, only Ad links? And therefore got quite angry with Google, but as you say it is what it is, and at the end of the day they can do what they want and if you don&#039;t like it, leave it!
I&#039;ve calmed down since and just do my own thing concentrating on writing and enjoying my work.
Thanks,,,, Jimi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David, i used to think, why are some sites Page Ranking high when there isn&#8217;t even any content on them, only Ad links? And therefore got quite angry with Google, but as you say it is what it is, and at the end of the day they can do what they want and if you don&#8217;t like it, leave it!<br />
I&#8217;ve calmed down since and just do my own thing concentrating on writing and enjoying my work.<br />
Thanks,,,, Jimi.</p>
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		<title>By: Philipmarketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipmarketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Google engineers and SEOers will always be in conflicts. But they all need each other like police needs criminals then they have the reason to exist. When SEO gets too much, google will take something back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Google engineers and SEOers will always be in conflicts. But they all need each other like police needs criminals then they have the reason to exist. When SEO gets too much, google will take something back.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kanarek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Kanarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think SEO strategies will change constantly to keep up with people who try to trick the system and get better links. It&#039;s definitely not fair but we have to be vigilant and make sure there aren&#039;t backlinks that can hurt us. The trick is finding out how to do that. I used to do link exchanges but stopped doing that a few years ago. Thanks for the detailed explanation. It answered a few questions I have about google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think SEO strategies will change constantly to keep up with people who try to trick the system and get better links. It&#8217;s definitely not fair but we have to be vigilant and make sure there aren&#8217;t backlinks that can hurt us. The trick is finding out how to do that. I used to do link exchanges but stopped doing that a few years ago. Thanks for the detailed explanation. It answered a few questions I have about google.</p>
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		<title>By: Ming Jong Tey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ming Jong Tey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

That&#039;s the game of SEO. Despite the unfairness, people can&#039;t really do much apart from doing what has been deemed as the &quot;best practice&quot; - create quality content, white hat backlinking with proper anchor text profile, etc...

Though I am still into SEO, but I have moved away SEO as my strategy to bring in traffic for all my new sites / projects as it is just too risky...


Cheers,
Ming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the game of SEO. Despite the unfairness, people can&#8217;t really do much apart from doing what has been deemed as the &#8220;best practice&#8221; &#8211; create quality content, white hat backlinking with proper anchor text profile, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Though I am still into SEO, but I have moved away SEO as my strategy to bring in traffic for all my new sites / projects as it is just too risky&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ming</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, yeah...I call bullsh*t. Throw out the concept of &quot;fair&quot;...which is irrelevant at best.

Now let&#039;s get back to your contention: &quot;Google’s goal is to provide searchers with what will be most useful to them. &quot;

That&#039;s clearly not true. It may be their stated goal. And it probably SHOULD be their goal.

If it were Google&#039;s goal to provide searchers with helpful, high-quality results...they wouldn&#039;t be BURYING top-quality sites with &quot;over-optimization&quot; penalties. To try to justify the impact of such actions on the search rankings borders on insanity.

And keep this in mind: GOOGLE created the situation as it stands today. They started with a good idea (references equal endorsements) and ended up bowing at the altar of a grand algorithm...the lazy man&#039;s way out. I&#039;m certain that Matt Cutts and friends work very hard...but WHATEVER is causing the crap results (whether it&#039;s lack of unimpeachable human input, a lack of ability to acquire the social signals of a billion people on FB, or whatever else you might want to cite as contributing factors), they are FAILING.

To put flesh on my point, let me offer a single personal example (admittedly, a severe one, but I could offer several that are quite dramatic): For 5 years or so, one of my web sites was ranked #1 in its space. This is a legit, high-value site that offers things that real people really want, and for many years, drew 2000-3000 uniques per day.

Before I go on...yes, I built cheap links. Everyone else was doing it, and I couldn&#039;t ignore that. The competition (by the way...Disney, PBS and other titans) were competing for my top ranking. But as of March 2nd of this year, the site was still ranked at #4. By the time the algo update hit in late April, it was still hanging in there at #7. And was still at #14 even as late as the day before this latest update. By September 29th, it had dropped to #264. On October 1st, #336. As of today, it&#039;s at #267.

Mind you...NOTHING has changed on this site during this time. NOTHING. It&#039;s still just as valuable to its visitors...but now, no one sees it.

I&#039;d love to hear you explain how the searching audience is well-served by such search results. Because...it&#039;s impossible to do so. And Matt Cutts couldn&#039;t justify it, either.

Oh, and by the way...after God knows how many years...Bing still has it at #1.

I understand the need to fight spam. I hate it as well. But when you&#039;re killing your own product in order to teach manipulative SEO types a lesson...you&#039;ve lost your way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, yeah&#8230;I call bullsh*t. Throw out the concept of &#8220;fair&#8221;&#8230;which is irrelevant at best.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s get back to your contention: &#8220;Google’s goal is to provide searchers with what will be most useful to them. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s clearly not true. It may be their stated goal. And it probably SHOULD be their goal.</p>
<p>If it were Google&#8217;s goal to provide searchers with helpful, high-quality results&#8230;they wouldn&#8217;t be BURYING top-quality sites with &#8220;over-optimization&#8221; penalties. To try to justify the impact of such actions on the search rankings borders on insanity.</p>
<p>And keep this in mind: GOOGLE created the situation as it stands today. They started with a good idea (references equal endorsements) and ended up bowing at the altar of a grand algorithm&#8230;the lazy man&#8217;s way out. I&#8217;m certain that Matt Cutts and friends work very hard&#8230;but WHATEVER is causing the crap results (whether it&#8217;s lack of unimpeachable human input, a lack of ability to acquire the social signals of a billion people on FB, or whatever else you might want to cite as contributing factors), they are FAILING.</p>
<p>To put flesh on my point, let me offer a single personal example (admittedly, a severe one, but I could offer several that are quite dramatic): For 5 years or so, one of my web sites was ranked #1 in its space. This is a legit, high-value site that offers things that real people really want, and for many years, drew 2000-3000 uniques per day.</p>
<p>Before I go on&#8230;yes, I built cheap links. Everyone else was doing it, and I couldn&#8217;t ignore that. The competition (by the way&#8230;Disney, PBS and other titans) were competing for my top ranking. But as of March 2nd of this year, the site was still ranked at #4. By the time the algo update hit in late April, it was still hanging in there at #7. And was still at #14 even as late as the day before this latest update. By September 29th, it had dropped to #264. On October 1st, #336. As of today, it&#8217;s at #267.</p>
<p>Mind you&#8230;NOTHING has changed on this site during this time. NOTHING. It&#8217;s still just as valuable to its visitors&#8230;but now, no one sees it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear you explain how the searching audience is well-served by such search results. Because&#8230;it&#8217;s impossible to do so. And Matt Cutts couldn&#8217;t justify it, either.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way&#8230;after God knows how many years&#8230;Bing still has it at #1.</p>
<p>I understand the need to fight spam. I hate it as well. But when you&#8217;re killing your own product in order to teach manipulative SEO types a lesson&#8230;you&#8217;ve lost your way!</p>
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		<title>By: thepublicblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>thepublicblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting and reality based article. I&#039;m a Google fan, so no complaints here, but I certainly understand those who are not. Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and reality based article. I&#8217;m a Google fan, so no complaints here, but I certainly understand those who are not. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>By: M Schulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Schulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seo is like a poker game. Even the best player in the world can&#039;t win every hand. You just have to constantly make the right decision(buildIng quality sites) and it will pay off in the long run</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seo is like a poker game. Even the best player in the world can&#8217;t win every hand. You just have to constantly make the right decision(buildIng quality sites) and it will pay off in the long run</p>
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